It rings out like its supposed to. You know, like, how does that go? Youve been very outspoken about the right to have an abortion. And one day we wound up in the studio and we cut the song. See where your favorite artists and songs rank on the Rolling Stone Charts. People will have to prove that they have been raped. SHIRES: I really do feel like he did a lot of work for me that I dont have to do. Snubbing the King: Why Don't Big Stars Want to Perform at Charles' Coronation? During "Break Out the Champagne," Shires wryly relates an account of a female friend who was dumped by a dullard, only to realize that he'd never really satisfied her anyway: "I'm rock and rock and roll, and you're golf." So heres my guest, Amanda Shires, and Jason Isbell singing her song, The Problem.. GROSS: And me of you, so thank you. So I started just taking notes on the radio because I heard it. Thats the trick.. But I thought, what am I going to do about that in the event that she does go into country music? Wherever you get that support whether in a relationship or friends no matter what you believe, you can believe to support somebody through something hard.. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. What didnt I say that could have helped change one mind? I cant live with the idea of not speaking up. Shires wrote the song a few years ago and originally imagined it as a conversation between several women, but revamped it to feature her collaborator and husband. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. I am Terry Gross. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. So I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com For my children, I did what I had to do. But they took me seriously, but they also knew the seriousness and the impact of the help that they were giving me. Having recently moved to Nashville with Shires whose own fourth solo album, Down Fell the Doves, comes out next week the newlyweds will sequester themselves in different corners of the house to write new songs, then play them for each other. Why was that the verse that you wrote or sang for yourself? The next time Jason Isbell told Amanda Shires he wanted to quit, she began talking with his manager about facilitating a trip to rehab. However, the "night-before bender" nearly broke them. Shires told WNYC Studios, "He wanted to do every drug, drink every thing, drink the moonshine, all the late night stuff, it was crazy. Just admit Im what you want. Jason Isbell) Official Video ft. Jason Isbell Watch on Tour Dates Track to get concert, live stream and tour updates. And tell us how. You can call me serious trouble. SHIRES: In 2016, I was going on the road. I just fell in love with the music, is what happened. My best hope is that people continue to get angrier and that the folks who have been fighting so hard for so long, and are already tired, find some strength to keep fighting and also to mobilize others, especially youth, along the way. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. Thank you for performing for us. And all I could think to say/Was everythings going to be OK/Its gonna be all right/Im on your side, he sings. How are we going to police that? Yeah without you asking. GROSS: So one of the ways you ended up becoming a songwriter as well as a singer and musician was that Billy Joe Shaver heard you play. And after we recorded it, he said, Thats a really good song. And I said, Thats all you have to say. After recording and touring for several years with the Drive-By Truckers, for whom he wrote standouts including Decoration Day, Outfit and Danko/Manuel, Isbell launched his solo career in 2007. On forming the all-female country super-group The Highwomen. I tried so hard to make myself clear. Her new album is called Take It Like A Man.. I heard witchcraft in the whispers and I knew my time had come. With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van so I was left to the radio choices of sports ball and Top 40 country music. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. 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At age 34, hes got the baggy eyes of a man who has spent a lot of time thinking hard late at night. You may opt-out by, U.S. Sign up for Rolling Stones Newsletter. GROSS: Amanda Shires, how did you decide you wanted to write a song about abortion? When we overturn Roe, we risk going back to, Oh, now same-sex marriages cant happen. Fellow singer/songwriter Aimee Mann tweeted well wishes to Isbell: Im so sorry. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. And usually that works. Do you have you do a great version of Im Your Man, his song, Im Your Man, on YouTube. Subscribe: http://bit.ly/1lq9aEQTour the Ryman: http://bit.ly/tourtherymanVisit the Ryman Calendar: http://bit.ly/rymanconcertsAbout the Ryman Auditorium:Established in 1982 as the Union Gospel Tabernacle and renamed for the visionary who constructed it, Captain Tom G. Ryman, the Ryman Auditorium is a National Historic Landmark and cultural epicenter of Nashville, TN. You had an abortion. And after he did his time, he didnt say anything about it. Copyright 2023 Penske Business Media, LLC. It took Dave Cobb and it took Brandi and then it took Natalie [Hemby] and Maren Morris. And I had been internally bleeding for a whole lot of hours. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. And I hadnt heard the fiddle being played at all. The next year, she won a Grammy for best americana album as part of her husbands group, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. And I got awarded a scholarship to be able to go to those. If you want a partner, take my hand or only you want to strike me down in anger, here I stand. 99.99%. In 2020, The Highwomen won Album of the Year at the Americana Music Honors and Awards ceremony. Shires new album, Take it Like a Man, includes several songs she wrote during a rough period in her marriage to musician Jason Isbell. Its not more threatening than the idea of taking away the services and the work that doctors and nurses do. SHIRES: I feel like its a little nasally, and I wish it was, like, a little bit lower. Theyre just, you know, scans of them. And this is can I ask you to perform Fault Lines, to do an excerpt of it? But finding a voice now and sharing their stories now is as good as any time. Amanda Shires opens her new album To the Sunset with a strikingly different scenario. And because of that, I felt like we should make it something thats as safe as it can possibly be. Thank you for your songs. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid- feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows (Asheville, Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre, and Wilmington). I know I can take it like a man. Moon, in all your splendor. Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? It de-stigmatizes the conversation. Then I told my friend Dave Cobb about my idea and he really liked it, and he said, Im going to have you meet Brandi Carlile. She has performed as a member of the Texas Playboys, Thrift Store Cowboys, and Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit, as well as in a duo with Rod Picott. And one day, we wound up in the studio, and we cut the song. GROSS: You know, youve said that a lot of the songs on this album come from a troubled period of your marriage to songwriter and singer Jason Isbell, who you perform with and who plays on this album. And she was like, I had no idea. Here's why. On your Twitter, you describe yourself as a disciple of Leonard Cohen. I know they enjoy it. GROSS: So this track features you, Natalie Hemby and Yola as a guest artist on it. GROSS: I think its time for another break. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. SHIRES: Oh, right, in Alcatraz. Ninety-five percent of study participants who did have an abortion still stood by their decision. She gets pregnant and wants to have an abortion, although she doesnt feel great about it. Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. And Im coming for you like a hawk for the dove. Rock & roll kids just let decisions make themselves. So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. Shires would go on to make a name for herself, both as a solo artist and as the founder of the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. The song is called Hawk For The Dove.. And he said, well, you can always put it on there and just choose not to answer questions about it and, you know or you can he was pushing for me to leave Fault Lines on there because it is a good song, as he said. And I am still alive. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. SHIRES: About singing, yes. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. There were probably 2,500 people, and Im just standing there with a guitar, elevated and facing everyone. So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. We followed a coyote through the dust of Mexico. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. The way she relaxes into low notes on that last line makes it sound far more like an unembarrassed confession than a complaint. And hed play songs, and Id learn them. Trending As they talked, Amanda Shires, performing during the Americana Awards at Ryman Auditorium on Sept. 22, 2021 in Nashville. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. Along The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. And it was a Carrie Underwood song from it was, like, six years before that or something. And I return to them often. You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. Probably nobody enjoys it as much as I do, but its not a necessity for survival. And I said, Id love to. And then more recently, just about a year ago, in August of 2021, you had an ectopic pregnancy. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. I didnt believe it. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. Its no fun but well be alright.. Amanda Shires. I like the way these lines kind of happened in our lives and like tributaries in a way that we dont realize are happening. Will you look at me the same? And I said, OK. And then I fell in love. Im Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. It occurred to me the thing that broke my heart the most was when I grew up and realized everything wasnt an adventure, he says. But anyway so I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering. It was keeping me up at night. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. Isbell said everyone attending the bands shows would also be required to wear a mask. I would have died had this procedure not been available to me. SHIRES: I mean OK Im going to call her up after this, too. You can say its all my fault. My family left Honduras when they killed the Sandinistas. SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. 825 Eighth Avenue, New York, NY 10019, WNET is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization. feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows, He then shared his symptoms and expressed his gratitude for getting vaccinated: Lotta sinus drainage type stuff, scratchy in my throat and some muscle aches but no cough or breathing issues fyi. SHIRES: Thats well, see, Im accepting that it sounds like its supposed to now. photos by @alyssegafkjen Shes also one of the founders of the group The Highwomen. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Send us a tip using our anonymous form. And my hands are two empty cups. Do you think you would have been able to have the surgery if abortion had already been banned in Texas? Like, dont cry; dont show your emotions; be stoic; be strong; everything else is weakness. And I guess when we got to the third album sequence that I had, Jason was like, why isnt Fault Lines on there? I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? And I know that he feels the same way I do. Im so glad you wrote it. But they also understood that I was a kid. So lets hear a little bit of that song. And in this case, I wanted Jason to also come in and sing it, too. My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. It seems like a simple thing to say, but its really true. How did you decide to say that these songs are really about a bad period of your marriage? While the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made this Highwomen be a thing. SHIRES: Ive listened to all of his records. OK. Shires character wrestles with the decision and the right thing to do in her situation, while Isbells character offers his support for whatever decision she makes. GROSS: So we have to take another short break here, so let me reintroduce you. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. Since writing that op-ed, I have had reproductive healthcare that some might call an abortion when I was hospitalized in Texas on August 9, 2021, with a ruptured fallopian tube caused by an ectopic pregnancy. Jason Isbell, Amanda Shires to Serve as Record Store Days 2023 Ambassadors. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. It was Fault Lines.. Lets get back to my interview with Amanda Shires, a great singer and songwriter who also co-founded the band The Highwomen, which is a kind of all-star country music band. Maybe I was asking for a little too much. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. Shed been learning to play classical music on "I'm daring to do what she couldn't bring herself to do," Shires ruminates, shadowed by her own feathery harmonies. I want to talk with you about The Highwomen. Cancelling shows feels awful, I know. GROSS: OK. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. And, you know, she. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. The former Drive-By Truckers newfound sobriety, a recurring topic of discussion (and of his exceptional songwriting), may have cost him some of his sense of adventure, but it has undoubtedly focused his attention on his craft. You can have as much fun. Say whatever feels better or whatever. Im not joking. Did you actually meet him? Wills was the father of western swing. And I was still dealing with all of it two and a half weeks later. Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. And then in my mind I thought, well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? 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So to give listeners a sense of Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys, listeners who dont know who they are, this is a classic 1940 recording of New San Antonio Rose., (SOUNDBITE OF SONG, NEW SAN ANTONIO ROSE), BOB WILLS AND HIS TEXAS PLAYBOYS: (Singing) Deep within my heart lies a melody, a song of old San Antone (ph) San Antone where in dreams I live with a memory beneath the stars, all alone. Jason Isbell and Amanda Shires say they've turned in their memberships with the Country Music Association, due to the organization's "failure" to acknowledge the Video Playlist: Drive-By Truckers Play Pared-Down Southern Rock, You can still find those adventures if you surround yourself with the right people, Isbell tells Rolling Stone, sitting at a picnic table on the roof of the Port City Music Hall in Portland, Maine, where hell perform in a couple of hours, a few days after his Newport set. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. I think thats what people keep forgetting. BRANDI CARLILE: (Singing) I was a Highwoman and a mother from my youth. I believe thats when that that became not an option. GROSS: The bail bondsmen are often their offices are often located in a very low-rent part of town. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. And you got your start professionally at age 15 playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys. And sometimes, you know, you can, like, cup your hands and drink water from them or you could cup your hands and I dont know. The South is in need of a lot of help, Shires tells Rolling Stone. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. 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